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Understanding the Vaginal Microbiome and Vaginal Well being With Priyanka Jain


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Katie: Hi there and welcome to the Wellness Mama podcast. I’m Katie from wellnessmama.com, and this episode is all a couple of matter that I’ve circuitously ever coated on this podcast earlier than, which is the subject of vaginal well being and vaginal microbiome. So somewhat bit of a better stage matter. Could or might not wish to hear with babies until you’re going to elucidate that dialog to them. However I feel a vital matter for girls, particularly as a result of we actually get into how that is related to fertility, to being pregnant, to raised delivery outcomes, and to girls’s well being normally. And it’s the deepest I’ve gone on this matter.

And I’m right here with Priyanka Jain, who’s the co-founder and CEO of an organization known as Evvy, the place they’re on a mission to shut the gender well being information hole. They usually’re beginning with the primary ever precision vaginal well being care platform and the world’s largest information set on the vaginal microbiome, which has not been studied largely previously. Her background is in information and she or he’s bringing this method to girls’s well being and particularly to vaginal microbiome understanding. And so similar to we have now a intestine microbiome and an oral microbiome, she is instantly concerned in doing the analysis within the vaginal microbiome and the way it’s impacting girls’s well being.

We discuss her personal journey and what led to this, how girls weren’t included in scientific analysis till 1993, and why girls are nonetheless identified years after males for a similar circumstances, the way to truly make the perfect use of information that we now have entry to, how vaginal discomfort is the main cause girls search medical well being within the US and at any given second, 30% of ladies have some type of vaginal dysbiosis however it may be for a lot of completely different causes and it’s typically in typical drugs handled as a single trigger, the explanation the vagina is supposed to be acidic, what her information set on vaginal microbiome is displaying and what we are able to study from it, what the most typical types of vaginal dysbiosis are, how 84% of individuals with vaginal dysbiosis haven’t any signs and get no remedy, and 66% of people that assume they’ve a yeast an infection even have one thing else solely.

We discuss issues like boric acid and what the analysis reveals, we discuss vaginal probiotics and what to know, and the way vaginal well being impacts fertility, being pregnant, and delivery, and the way to optimize this to your benefit. And she or he has some actually superior life recommendation on the finish, in addition to a guide suggestion that’s new. So I hope that you’ll take pleasure in this actually fascinating episode with Priyanka Jain, and let’s be part of her now. Priyanka, welcome. Thanks a lot for being right here.

Priyanka: Thanks a lot for having me.

Katie: That is going to be, I feel, a extremely informative and enjoyable dialog. And we’re going to get to enter some matters that really I’ve not talked about on this podcast but in virtually 700 episodes. However first as a springboard, I really feel like there’s a related a part of your story that relates instantly into the work that you simply’re doing. And from researching you, it looks as if you handled some sure well being issues your self and that that kind of led you into this world of well being and wellness. So I might love to listen to that story and what that journey was like for you.

Priyanka: Sure, positively. I at all times joke that everybody has, or most girls have their very own model of my story, proper? Of going to so many physician’s places of work, feeling like you’ve signs which can be unexplained or issues preserve taking place to you, however every little thing, , quote unquote, appears to be like regular. And possibly it’s best to drink extra water or possibly it’s best to sleep extra or possibly it’s best to have a much less anxious job. And I come from a background within the information world, have at all times been actually taken with ways in which we may convey machine studying merchandise to the world to assist attempt to make the world a extra honest place, and was simply shocked at, , the dearth of information that I had entry to alone physique, proper? To attempt to perceive what was going incorrect, why was I feeling this fashion? And the quantity of simply frustration from each the affected person and supplier aspect with the shortcoming to get solutions.

And as I began doing a few of my very own analysis, as I feel so many ladies do once they have experiences like mine, I came upon among the completely wild info that now underpin Evvy’s mission, proper? The truth that within the US, girls weren’t in scientific analysis till 1993. And that to at the present time, we’re identified on common 4 years later than males throughout over 700 illnesses. And what that screamed to me as information individual is, oh wow, we even have this large information hole on the subject of our understanding of the feminine physique.

We’ve basically eternally in historical past studied middle-aged mid-sized white males after which assumed that ladies had been small males and we might simply make every little thing smaller and that healthcare would work. And clearly that’s not the case, proper? That’s not our lived experiences. And so I turned so interested by, if we’ve by no means studied the feminine physique, there should be so many distinctive indicators, proper? Messages that the feminine physique is making an attempt to offer off saying, I’m doing nicely or I need assistance, however we simply don’t measure these issues as a result of they didn’t exist in males. And so I used to be very interested by, okay, may we begin to measure a few of these indicators and really may that enhance our capacity to detect illness in girls and deal with it in a way more efficacious trend? And that was the start of Evvy.

Katie: Yeah, and I’m glad you introduced up that hole. It nonetheless blows my thoughts that actually girls weren’t even included in analysis till ’93 and are nonetheless not included equally in analysis now. And I do know it’s like partially like we used to simply assume girls had been small males and likewise girls have hormones that appear to alter and are complicated. So it’s simpler to simply ignore that half solely and simply concentrate on males as a result of they’re kind of like simpler to manage variables, which I get. However I really feel prefer to your level, it does a disservice to girls.

And such as you, I had that have of getting points, not having the ability to get solutions from medical doctors being advised like that’s regular or that’s simply postpartum or that’s simply your hormones. And my thought was like even when it’s widespread, that doesn’t imply it’s regular. And it doesn’t imply that’s how we have now to really feel. And so I like that you simply’re taking the information pushed method and like, we have now entry now on this time to all this information we didn’t used to have, whether or not it’s wearables, lab testing, no matter. However what will we do with it? I really feel like we’re within the like interpretation period of information.

Priyanka: I like the way in which you body that. And I feel it’s, , there’s so many issues in what you stated, proper? Round the truth that we medical doctors don’t have solutions, we don’t have solutions. We’re advised that, , issues, signs are regular in girls, proper? It’s regular to have all of those unwanted side effects to contraception, it’s regular. And I feel to your level, regular is possibly the incorrect phrase, proper? Perhaps it’s widespread, however I feel that one of many issues that I might love to alter by way of Evvy, is regardless of the reverse of normalizing is, unnormalizing. I might like to unnormalize feminine ache, proper? I feel we’ve simply accepted that we have now, we dwell longer, however we undergo extra. And I feel that we simply have to alter that. We’ve to resolve that we’re not okay with girls struggling within the healthcare system. And I feel as soon as we resolve that, rather a lot will change.

Katie: Agreed. And to your level, that appears to be one other space the place there’s an enormous discrepancy is that ladies are usually not even believed about their ache once they go into ERs with the identical actual signs as a person. They gained’t be believed that they’re in ache. And it looks as if research have additionally proven that ladies can deal with a fairly intense quantity of ache and nonetheless function and performance. And so I feel typically that simply will get discounted. After which these girls simply aren’t given sources and solutions once they’re having a authentic factor occurring.

Priyanka: Precisely, it’s truthfully wild. There’s a lot analysis displaying that we’re extra more likely to be dismissed. I’m going to butcher the precise stat, but it surely’s one thing like we’re twice as more likely to be misdiagnosed once we’re having a coronary heart assault as a result of individuals don’t take our signs as critically and since signs can typically manifest in another way in girls and a variety of medical doctors aren’t skilled to know the signs in girls. So I feel the gender well being hole goes so, thus far and vast. And I feel we’re so within the element of it that’s pushed by the dearth of information and the way we may help repair that drawback.

Katie: And that’s an excellent springboard into what I hope goes to be the majority of our dialog as we speak associated to what you’re with information factors in girls and particularly associated to the vaginal microbiome, which is the half that has probably not been talked about right here aside from kind of peripherally in relation to infants getting seeded in the course of the birthing course of, which I hope we’ll additionally go into. However that’s like, I really feel like one piece and a complete spectrum of essential issues to learn about this. So why did you begin there?

Priyanka: Yeah, completely. Such query. I really feel like each time I’m speaking to, particularly the numerous male buyers, I get requested, what’s the vaginal microbiome? Or why is that the place you began? However I imply, there’s there’s two sides to this.

One is that vaginal discomfort is definitely the main cause that ladies search healthcare recommendation within the US. It’s an extremely, extremely irritating symptom and to your level, quite common signs. And there’s a variety of alternative ways to take a look at that, proper? Like I stated, main cause that we go to the physician at any given second, 30% of vaginas are in dysbiosis, that means that we aren’t dominated by protecting micro organism. And what’s loopy to me is that regardless that this situation, these set of circumstances and signs are so prevalent, once we go to the physician, we’re extra more likely to be misdiagnosed than appropriately identified, and we’re extra possible to not get higher than we’re to get higher.

And to simply sort of clarify how the vaginal microbiome works after which sort of the way it’s not associated, not simply to those signs and infections, but additionally what we’re speaking about as we speak round motherhood and being pregnant, basically just a bit 101 on the vaginal microbiome. I’m positive you’re accustomed to the intestine microbiome or different microbiomes that exist in or on the physique: pores and skin, mouth, intestine, and so forth. Seems we even have one in our vaginas. And I at all times say, , it’s truly enjoying this very fascinating sort of like barrier immune system position for us down there.

And what I imply by that’s that when it’s dominated by protecting micro organism, the most typical of which is lactobacilli, which you may’ve seen on sure probiotics or dietary supplements. And that lactobacilli, what it’s doing within the vagina is actually producing lactic acid and hydrogen peroxide and taking on area on the vaginal wall. And principally they’re preserving the vagina very acidic. So too low pH, I’m positive you’ve heard of vaginal pH. And what that does is it makes it in order that if any pathogen will get into the vagina, and , the vagina is actually an open gateway between the surface World after which a few of your most essential reproductive organs.

However when your vagina is in a wholesome protected state, if something, any kind of pathogen will get into the vagina, it simply can’t replicate, it might’t survive, if there’s no area for it, as a result of these protecting microbes are preserving them out. However , you say you’ve intercourse with somebody new otherwise you sit in your swimsuit for too lengthy or you’ve a protracted menstrual cycle. All of these issues can disrupt the vaginal microbiome. And people pathogens because the pH rises can begin to replicate.

And what occurs is we begin to expertise issues like yeast infections and recurrent UTIs and bacterial vaginosis. However what’s taking place is also that we’ve misplaced that protecting barrier between the surface world and our reproductive organs. So what you begin to see is far greater charges of miscarriage, infertility, IVF failure, preterm delivery, all the way in which to cervical most cancers development, STI acquisition, as a result of we now not have that barrier {that a} wholesome vaginal microbiome is offering you. And I feel as individuals with vaginas, we simply are usually not educated about that and the essential position that our vaginas are enjoying in our system. And we actually hope to alter that.

Katie: Yeah, I feel that is such an enchanting idea. And I feel additionally the excellence is essential to know. Such as you talked about, there’s many microbiomes that exist inside the physique’s ecosystem. And most of the people are most accustomed to the intestine microbiome in all probability. And there’s fortunately a variety of info taking place, a variety of analysis taking place right here. There’s additionally my space of analysis, which was the oral microbiome, which I feel can also be fascinating, clearly very related to the intestine as nicely. We’ve a pores and skin microbiome, after all, vaginal microbiome such as you simply defined.

However what I feel is so cool is knowing that our digestive system, as an example, whereas it’s contained in the bodily a part of our physique, can also be thought of an exterior system as a result of it’s a tube the place issues move by way of, however there’s limitations of coming into our bloodstream. And in the identical method, our reproductive system is definitely kind of an exterior system with that barrier, such as you defined, bacterially. And so this is sort of a very, such as you stated, very very important and essential line of protection between our physique and the surface World. And I really feel like this half isn’t very nicely talked about in any respect.

Priyanka: Completely, and I feel there’s so many causes for that, proper? There’s the basic stigmas and taboos of ladies’s well being, and then you definately convey it to the vagina, and also you simply 10x the problems there. However I additionally assume that we simply haven’t utilized a variety of the perfect expertise to this drawback, proper? When you consider what you had been saying earlier, we’re residing in an age the place we do have good expertise. We will sequence issues. We will truly take a look at what’s occurring, and but we’re not seeing that expertise being utilized to this extremely essential drawback, each from a top quality of life standpoint for all the girls who’re affected by signs, but additionally from a preventative standpoint in order that we are able to begin to forestall issues like infertility and preterm births that possibly there are literally methods for us to begin taking note of the feminine physique in order that we are able to forestall these forms of issues from taking place.

Katie: And I do know you’re now capable of have entry to a variety of actually detailed information round this. So I’m actually curious, what are different rising patterns and tendencies or the belongings you’re seeing in a variety of girls? Like what’s developing most frequently within the information that you simply’re seeing?

Priyanka: Yeah, such query. So we now have the world’s largest and most complete information set on the vaginal microbiome ever, which may be very thrilling when it comes to having the ability to lastly unlock higher analysis, proper? And I feel the way in which we’ve constructed that information set is definitely by offering solutions to individuals one-to-one, proper?

We’ve our platform, which I understand I didn’t clarify, however basically anybody can order an Evvy check on-line. After they order the check, it’s like somewhat Q-tip swab that you simply take at house of your vagina. You mail it again to our lab, and we do metagenomic entire genome sequencing on the pattern. And what meaning is we’re capable of see on the highest constancy all micro organism and fungi which can be in a pattern. After which we convey that again and we educate you about, okay, right here’s every little thing we discovered, right here’s the way it’s associated to your well being targets, right here’s what we learn about it, right here’s how the signs may manifest, and most significantly, right here’s what you’ll be able to truly do about it. That is the step-by-step plan. You possibly can both take it to your individual physician, or now we are able to truly provide help to get custom-made prescriptions particularly for you.

And thru providing that to tens of hundreds of ladies now, we’ve been capable of not solely assist them higher perceive their very own our bodies, but additionally once they consent to analysis, we then may also begin to do that analysis. And I’m a knowledge nerd, the information is fascinating, like actually, actually fascinating. And I feel there’s a few early takeaways.

One is that the scientific method that we perceive the most typical vaginal infections, bacterial vaginosis, is the most typical one, and that’s the one which has essentially the most sort of reproductions, or implications from a replica standpoint. It’s simply so misguided. And what I imply by that’s that our scientific understanding is so broad, the definition of bacterial vaginosis is actually an overgrowth of micro organism. However clearly once we truly take a look at it, you see tons of several types of micro organism in several ranges, several types of pathogens that are inclined to trigger signs or don’t trigger signs or are literally related to a detrimental final result or aren’t, proper? And I feel the abstract studying I might say is that there’s a lot extra specificity and nuance to what’s occurring, that we’re simply not capturing or taking note of as we speak. But when we truly did take note of this a lot greater constancy information, we may truly assist intervene and alter somebody’s microbiome, each bettering their signs and actually bettering their longer-term outcomes.

Katie: That is sensible. And it jogs my memory of, I discussed oral well being was my space of microbiome analysis, the way you’ll see related issues. And understanding at a base stage, initially, micro organism just isn’t a foul factor, particularly if you’re speaking a couple of microbiome. It’s completely essential. It’s solely when a pathogenic one will get out of steadiness in a detrimental method that we have now a problem. So within the mouth, that might appear to be you would have the strep mutans micro organism that tends to trigger cavities, or you would have a complete household of micro organism that are inclined to trigger gingivitis. And also you don’t sometimes see them each on the identical time as a result of they’re each pathogenic and opportunistic. So sometimes just one or the opposite will take off. However each could be helped by getting the oral microbiome in steadiness.

And I might guess that we have now an analogous factor, in all probability much more complicated possibly, taking place with vaginal microbiome the place, such as you stated, there’s a complete host of various issues that might be out of steadiness, however all of them simply get lumped underneath one umbrella. And do they get handled the identical then in drugs? It’s like, oh, that is this, deal with it with the identical factor each time?

Priyanka: Actually, I imply, I may go on about this eternally, so I’ll spare us, however the TLDR is that in case you have bacterial vaginosis or vaginitis, we throw an antibiotic at it, basically bomb the vaginal microbiome, after which hope that one thing completely different grows again, which is clearly not what occurs, and that’s why you see extraordinarily, extraordinarily excessive recurrence charges, as a result of to your level, we’re not specializing in truly rebalancing it. We’re not specializing in saying, how will we truly regrow the great micro organism? As a result of in case you do this, you truly forestall the unhealthy micro organism from having the ability to survive within the first place, proper? And that good micro organism is definitely what’s creating that barrier for you that protects the remainder of your system.

And the opposite factor I’ll say that actually is so fascinating to me is that 84% of people who find themselves in dysbiosis, proper, don’t have a protecting vaginal microbiome, truly haven’t any signs. And people individuals as we speak, we don’t do something for. And so I feel there’s a big strategy to go, each in serving to individuals who do have signs, however then additionally educating individuals about why they need to care about this barrier, even when they don’t have signs, and the way will we assist them rebuild it both method?

Katie: That’s an excellent level as a result of if an individual goes into their gynecologist simply for a traditional checkup, they might be checked for bacterial vaginosis doubtlessly, however they’re not getting like a microbiome check of their vagina to seek out out if one thing’s out of steadiness, proper? And sometimes, like from my understanding, they could solely be examined in the event that they’re having signs outdoors of only a pap smear, as an example.

Priyanka: No, precisely. I imply, truly, medical doctors are inspired to not examine the vaginal checks of sufferers’ vaginal well being outdoors of if they’ve signs, which I perceive, proper? We don’t have till, I imply, we didn’t have a variety of good solutions or a variety of good instruments, however as we speak, yeah, we ignore everybody who just isn’t symptomatic. After which even when you’re symptomatic, we’ll search for the sort of binary presence of is a sure microbe there or not, however we aren’t truly that entire neighborhood, proper? It’s like what you stated in regards to the oral microbiome. It’s all in regards to the steadiness of the neighborhood, and it’s not in regards to the binary sure/no on a sure microbe. And so I feel there’s a variety of work to be executed in sort of shifting our understanding of the vaginal microbiome in order that we are able to truly maintain the neighborhood and never simply deal with it like a sinus an infection, proper? The place it’s like, oh, you’ve an an infection, we’re simply going to clear it. And it’s like, you truly don’t wish to clear the vaginal microbiome. You simply desire a completely different one.

Katie: Yeah, precisely. Identical factor with, to tie in once more, just like the oral microbiome. It’s the explanation I encourage individuals don’t use harsh mouthwash since you’re wiping out all that oral microbiome, which additionally, like as an example, depletes your nitric oxide ranges and has this entire host of ripple results. In all probability the identical in vaginal well being, which makes me surprise like, what are among the sort of possibly widespread issues or like no less than issues individuals may encounter which can be truly actually unhealthy for our vaginal microbiome that we don’t even know to not do? Like I can consider, as an example, douching is perhaps on that listing, however what are among the widespread issues that may kind of spur that imbalance to start with?

Priyanka: Fully. Effectively, douching is on the high of that listing, such as you stated, it doesn’t matter what firm tries to persuade you that their douche is nice. No douching is nice. You do not need to scrub the within of your vagina. Your vagina must be self-cleaning. And if it’s not, it means you’ve an issue that you want to take care of and a douche just isn’t going to repair it. In order that’s the largest no-no.

After which there’s different issues, scented merchandise down there. You don’t wish to put any kind of cleaning soap into your vagina. Even issues like wipes and washes, all of that you simply simply need to watch out with as a result of once more, you simply don’t wish to disrupt what’s occurring inside. And I feel, , there’s so many different issues that go incorrect for individuals down there. I might say one factor to understand is simply that there’s greater than yeast infections. I feel what we’ve seen from our neighborhood is everybody thinks each itch is a yeast an infection. And there’s truly a lot extra that might be occurring. I feel it’s one thing like 66% of people that assume they’ve a yeast an infection even have one thing else. So I feel simply not assuming that every little thing is one situation and actually beginning to concentrate to your physique can actually assist.

After which the very last thing I’ll say is that intercourse performs an enormous position within the vaginal microbiome. And there’s a few alternative ways, proper? One is your companion’s microbiome is now mixing with yours. And so that you’re introducing a variety of micro organism. Two is that within the case of semen, semen truly has extra micro organism in it than sperm. So there’s a complete host of micro organism that may be launched to your vaginal microbiome by way of intercourse.

After which three is simply that your microbiomes down there can actually begin to transfer round with all of the friction and that’s one thing to be actually cautious of. And so in case you’re any person who’s vulnerable to having these infections, in case you’re not making an attempt to conceive in that second, then condoms truly are usually not simply useful for sexually transmitted infections, they’ll truly even be extraordinarily useful for the vaginal microbiome.

Katie: A lot comply with as much as unpack there. I feel what you stated about yeast infections is fascinating as a result of if that’s true that almost all of people that have some symptom assume it’s a yeast an infection and it’s truly not. It looks as if logically that might additionally imply that treating it as a yeast an infection may truly trigger extra issues than it helps.

Priyanka: Precisely. And that is, I feel there’s so many causes for this, however certainly one of them is simply that these circumstances are taboo and the one issues that folks have heard of are yeast infections. They simply assume any kind of discomfort down there may be yeast when it truly might be a whole bunch of various micro organism that might be inflicting the issue and an antifungal just isn’t going to repair a bacterial an infection.

However there are also pores and skin points, proper? There’s dermatitis. Like in sclerosis, there’s so many different circumstances that might be occurring down there. And I feel a lot of what we are able to do and what your wonderful platform is doing is educating girls about this stuff, proper? In order that we don’t simply make the belief, we do truly do our personal analysis and get the information in order that we do get a remedy that really helps us and doesn’t damage us.

Katie: Are there additionally way of life and/or I’m wondering if even weight loss program is correlated right here elements that ladies can study from and profit from? Like I do know we in all probability a variety of us acquired the recommendation don’t put on a moist swimsuit for too lengthy, issues like that. However are there like way of life associated elements that make a distinction and or meals that once we eat them truly are supportive or not supportive?

Priyanka: Such good questions. As with most issues in vaginal well being, sadly my reply must be that there’s not a variety of analysis but. We’re doing a little actually thrilling analysis on weight loss program, truly with Viome and fascinated by the connection between the intestine microbiome and the vaginal microbiome, which is desperately under-researched.

I feel that a variety of our sufferers inform us that their lived expertise says that consuming sugars or consuming glutens promotes sure forms of infections for them. However once more, there’s not a variety of analysis to again that up. Undoubtedly we see individuals say a moist swimsuit. An fascinating one is that menstrual blood truly has the next pH than the wholesome low pH of your vagina. So what some individuals will see is that in or after their interval, they’ll expertise some discomfort as a result of their vaginal pH is being raised and that may promote a few of these pathogenic microbes. And so in case you have a extremely lengthy interval for one month, that’s one thing that, , it’s regular to then possibly expertise some set of signs and likewise that all through the menstrual cycle, as your estrogen ranges fluctuate, estrogen truly performs an enormous position within the vaginal microbiome.

So for sufferers who’re pregnant, for instance, you may’ve heard that you simply’re extra more likely to get yeast infections, as a result of estrogen performs a job with candida, which may be very fascinating. However the excellent news is that estrogen produces glycogen, which then feeds the wholesome lactobacilli. And so what you see is usually throughout being pregnant, girls are much less more likely to have bacterial vaginosis, however some girls postpartum, when their estrogen ranges drop, begin to expertise infections once more. So simply remembering that your weight loss program, your hormones, your physique’s one organism, proper? Effectively, it’s a number of many organisms, however they’re all working collectively. As an alternative of not treating them like they’re separate, in case you take an antibiotic for an eye fixed an infection, it’s going to have an effect on your vaginal microbiome. So take into consideration that, proper? And I feel the extra we are able to do not forget that all of this stuff are related, the extra possible we’re to make choices that gained’t disrupt it.

Katie: After which I assume the flip aspect is, what are the issues we are able to do, if any, that of from the information proper now or that you simply hope to uncover sooner or later associated to optimistic issues we are able to do to assist? As a result of like within the mouth, I do know we’ve recognized some oral probiotics that really assist, prebiotics, all types of issues that we’re testing and understanding extra now. Is that the identical within the vaginal microbiome as nicely? And in that case, what are among the ways in which we are able to assist that good steadiness?

Priyanka: 100%, such query. Effectively, I might say the very first thing is to know. Know what’s occurring for you. And naturally, I’m biased, I’m obsessive about information, however I feel that crucial factor you are able to do is perceive your individual physique. Perceive if you really feel nice, what does your vaginal microbiome appear to be? Or possibly you truly are experiencing dysbiosis, however you’ve normalized a variety of these signs for your self, proper? So how will you truly begin to get the information? As a result of that’s the start line is, okay, what’s my steadiness?

And with Evvy, one of many issues we do is we share a rating for the protecting micro organism and a rating for the disruptive micro organism. And our aim is to extend the protecting and reduce the disruptive, and we’ll truly provide help to put collectively a step-by-step plan of how to try this, fascinated by the roles that biofilms may play. I do know these additionally play a job within the oral microbiome, proper?

Katie: Yeah, completely. Like positively we see biofilms, like we stated, the pathogenic micro organism can get out of steadiness. And sometimes for lots of people, all of it begins from simply over sterilizing the mouth as a result of it’s meant to be micro organism wealthy. And so I might assume for lots of ladies, possibly that is what’s occurring vaginally too, is like we’ve executed issues that like, whether or not it’s douching, whether or not it’s antibiotics, no matter, and we’ve like inoculated the entire microbiome after which now what’s coming again might be pathogenic as a result of we’ve simply disrupted every little thing.

Priyanka: Fully, utterly. And I feel that, , particularly with vaginal well being, and I feel equally with oral, proper? There’s this disgrace of unhealthy breath or a disgrace of vaginal odor. And so when one thing feels off down there, individuals do issues that really make it worse, proper? Like excessive mouth washes or like douching.

And so all that to say that, , there’s the position of biofilms within the vaginal microbiome that you simply may wish to bear in mind, like do you’ve micro organism in your vagina that do produce biofilms? As a result of in that case, that might truly be an essential factor to contemplate in remedy. However one thing I’m actually enthusiastic about that we solely simply launched in January truly is the flexibility to truly get these customized compounds from Evvy.

So what we are able to do now could be join sufferers to a health care provider who will take a look at your outcomes and prescribe custom-made vaginal suppositories which can be truly prescription. They’re truly prescription-grade drugs, however they embody the probiotics, prebiotics, and dietary supplements to feed these probiotics to regrow the great micro organism. And you are able to do it vaginally, which is so essential as a result of so many, , quote unquote, vaginal probiotics are taken orally, which is so loopy to me. I’m like, how will we count on that to get to your vagina? And so a variety of the work we did was ensuring that these elements might be out there vaginally, however medical grade, pure elements. So we’re very enthusiastic about that.

Katie: Yeah, so I’d like to study somewhat bit extra about that as a result of I do know I’ve seen, once more, not-talked-about matters very a lot, however I’ve seen some anecdotal information of individuals taking like boric acid suppositories, as an example, or utilizing vaginal probiotics. Are these areas that you simply guys are particularly? And in that case, do you assume these have a possible to be promising in bettering vaginal microbiome?

Priyanka: That’s query. So boric acid is such an fascinating one. I imply, as you’ve in all probability seen, it’s like in all probability the web’s best-selling product, I feel, like it’s actually all over the place. And I feel what’s so loopy is the truth that it’s so broadly used and so under-researched. Just like the understanding of what boric acid truly does to the vaginal microbiome is extraordinarily far behind. I feel the research that we’re essentially the most enthusiastic about are those that use boric acid particularly as a strategy to break down biofilms in sufferers who’ve biofilms.

I feel sadly it’s typically used extra for sort of symptom administration, however in these instances it’s truly similar to a band-aid, proper? You’re basically including acid as a result of your vaginal microbiome isn’t producing it, however the actual answer is to get to a spot the place you’ve micro organism that’s producing the acid. And I feel that, , on the finish of the day, it’s a sturdy acid that we in all probability don’t need individuals to be utilizing eternally. And so we like to consider it extra as a remedy versus sort of like a day-to-day upkeep, if you’ll.

After which on the vaginal probiotic aspect, there’s a lot thrilling analysis occurring in that area. There’s dwell biotherapeutics being labored on, which we are able to’t anticipate, so we are able to make these out there to our sufferers. There’s some actually thrilling analysis occurring round vaginal microbiome transplants, and all the research thus far truly present that they’re extraordinarily profitable. Not that I feel that’s going to be the remedy for individuals eternally, however I feel it does present that in case you can actually perceive the neighborhood of the perfect microbiome, you’ll be able to truly implant that and change a disrupted microbiome, which is so thrilling for the position of probiotics. And so we’re sturdy believers in vaginal probiotics. I feel they completely, when you consider the position of the protecting micro organism, it makes a lot sense that re-adding it again to the microbiome may help enhance outcomes. And in order that’s an enormous a part of Evvy’s care protocols as nicely.

Katie: That’s fascinating. So I wasn’t conscious they had been truly researching microbiome transplants vaginally as nicely. I do know that they’ve executed a variety of analysis on this with fecal matter transplants and it’s nonetheless like an rising and considerably like we’re not fairly positive precisely the way it works. And we’ve acquired to watch out with an space of analysis with fecal microbiome transfers. However that is sensible that it could be doubtlessly one thing price right here as nicely.

But it surely looks as if there’s additionally going to be that extraordinarily personalised side to this as nicely, which is the place corporations such as you are available that may truly take a look at issues on a personalised stage, not similar to a one measurement suits all, like let’s throw these merchandise in and see what occurs.

Priyanka: Fully, precisely. And I feel that with microbiomes, what’s tough is that it’s simply laborious to think about that there’s a silver bullet, that there’s one neighborhood of micro organism that’s going to work for each single individual no matter their background, their present neighborhood, and so forth. And so I feel our hope is that by way of information, we may help each individual get entry to the remedies which can be most certainly to enhance their microbiome, proper? Almost certainly to optimize their possibilities of profitable fertility, profitable IVF cycle, wholesome being pregnant, eliminating signs, , like all the issues that all of us deserve, I feel we’ll begin with way more personalised information.

Katie: It is sensible.

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And I might like to go deeper on associated to particularly being pregnant and delivery as a result of I’m a doula and I’ve truly facilitated a number of occasions what they name seeding when a child is born through C-section essentially. And we all know that in the course of the birthing course of, the newborn will get their preliminary intestine seeding by way of interplay with vaginal micro organism. In fact, in a C-section, that course of isn’t taking place. And so I’ve been the one within the OR to assist seed the newborn instantly, which there’s some fascinating research on. However I feel it actually highlights simply how essential a mom’s vaginal microbiome is to her little one’s lifelong intestine well being. And so I’m curious what you guys are, do you’ve any particular testing round pregnant girls or any particular recommendation for pregnant girls or girls who wish to get pregnant on actually optimizing that forward of time to offer their child the perfect shot?

Priyanka: 100%. I feel, , that is one thing that I feel we are going to look again on. You and I’ll discuss this once more in three years and it will likely be remarkable to attempt to get pregnant with out bearing in mind your vaginal microbiome.

While you take a look at the research in regards to the position of the vaginal microbiome earlier than, throughout, and nicely, earlier than and through being pregnant, throughout delivery after which after delivery, I imply, it’s simply, it’s unbelievable. And what I imply by that’s, to sort of go down that journey from fascinated by conceiving, there’s a lot analysis displaying that each from a pure being pregnant standpoint, individuals with a wholesome vaginal microbiome are inclined to get pregnant a lot sooner. They are typically much less more likely to have a miscarriage. After they undergo IVF, they’re 4 occasions extra more likely to have a profitable IVF cycle. If they’ve a wholesome vaginal microbiome throughout being pregnant, they’re a lot much less more likely to have a preterm delivery. After which to your level, in the course of the precise delivery, if they’ve a wholesome vaginal microbiome, they’re passing on these wholesome microbes to their child, proper?

And so it’s simply such a giant a part of the reproductive journey. And I simply can’t imagine how neglected it’s been, given how a lot analysis there may be saying that it performs this fascinating position. And we actually hope to sort of translate that analysis to clinicians. How will we truly give them entry to the proper info for the proper affected person, give them actionable concepts about what to do subsequent in order that they’ll begin to do that at scale? And to be honest, I feel that, , we’ve solely began to know this over the previous 10, 20 years, proper? And we’re solely simply on the time the place we are able to sequence at scale at a value that’s reasonably priced, that we lastly perceive, , which forms of strains are most profitable. And I feel we’re simply on the precipice of a giant turning level in our understanding of vaginal well being and being pregnant. But when I, after I at all times inform all of my buddies who’re pregnant, when I’m pregnant, like I’ll completely be placing my vaginal microbiome first. And I feel, , in just a few years that may change into the norm.

Katie: Yeah, I really feel like the one space that’s truly talked about or researched is in relation to group B strep or GBS, which girls are examined for on the finish of being pregnant. And I really feel like even right here, there’s not a variety of nice client info out there. Like medical doctors are conscious of this, they check for it, however girls typically don’t absolutely perceive the implications of it and may get actually scared in the event that they check optimistic. That’s typically like an occasion the place antibiotics are used robotically with out query. And it simply makes me surprise, like, is there a greater method? Like if we deal with this earlier in being pregnant, may we doubtlessly cut back the possibility of displaying up later in being pregnant in any respect?

Priyanka: Completely. I imply, to precisely what you stated about the way in which the oral microbiome works, it’s very related, proper? You probably have a wholesome, protected vaginal microbiome, the probabilities {that a} microbe like GBS will be capable to develop and trigger issues is simply decrease, proper? So how will we, , optimizing the vaginal microbiome from, , the identical method that we begin to take prenatals or eat more healthy, , change our habits as we begin to consider getting pregnant, I feel that, , proactively caring for your vaginal microbiome will change into an apparent factor to do at that step within the journey.

Katie: Precisely. As a result of similar to within the mouth, strep mutants exist in all people’s mouth in low ranges. It’s not an issue in and of itself. It’s an issue when it will get out of steadiness. Identical factor with group B strep exists in each vagina in some stage. It’s not unhealthy that it’s there. It’s unhealthy when it will get overgrown. And I really feel like I’m so excited by this analysis of if girls can have higher choices of understanding that and being proactive earlier on versus we now know speaking in regards to the delivery course of and that switch of microbiome, after all, taking antibiotics at that second might need a big effect on the newborn’s intestine well being as nicely.

Priyanka: Yeah, completely. And I feel that there’s a lot extra to be realized. And I feel that there’s, once more, simply to be again on my analysis rant, I feel the truth that these issues and signs are so prevalent in girls that they play such an essential position in our well being outcomes. And but right here we’re saying, oh, there’s solely somewhat little bit of preliminary analysis. It’s loopy, but it surely’s additionally time. I feel corporations like Evvy are banging down the doorways and saying we demand higher analysis, we demand higher info and the place we are able to’t get it, we’re going to do it ourselves.

And it’s been so cool to see the wonderful neighborhood of a whole bunch of hundreds of ladies which can be like all on board, proper, who’re like, I wish to find out about my vaginal well being. And we at all times joke that, , Evvy rising up within the age of TikTok is definitely sort of good as a result of individuals are like in search of that kind of content material. They’re not in search of one thing fairly and excellent. They’re studying. They’re in search of one thing that’s possibly somewhat stunning and completely different. And I feel due to that, we’ve actually been capable of scale that training. And I feel it’s solely a matter of time earlier than, nobody shall be scared of claiming vaginal microbiome, vaginal odor, vaginal discomfort, or simply the phrase vagina in any respect.

Katie: I like that. And I say typically on right here, in all probability even the listeners are bored with listening to it, however I like saying it, that on the finish of the day, we’re every our personal major healthcare supplier. And I feel we dwell in an enchanting time the place we even have extra entry than we’ve ever had by an exponential quantity to information about our personal our bodies and the flexibility to make choices based mostly on that information. I feel we’re nonetheless in that interpretation period and studying the way to truly combine all this information that we have now out there now. However I feel areas like this make it superior as a result of even when medical doctors aren’t testing for this, now girls can have that info themselves and take cost of their very own well being. I additionally am curious from the information you’re seeing. I feel you’re proper, it is a taboo topic. Girls have disgrace in the event that they really feel like there’s something incorrect.

However with the analysis you’re seeing and with the information you’re seeing, it looks as if, and proper me if I’m incorrect, however most issues that you simply establish truly could be mounted. There’s a answer to those issues. And when you’ve the data, that lets you then discover a answer.

Priyanka: Fully. I feel there’s, I wouldn’t say that there have been good options within the present customary of care. I feel so lots of our sufferers are individuals who have felt bizarre down there. They do go to the physician. They both get misdiagnosed, however even when they get appropriately identified, they’ve an over 50% likelihood of the an infection coming again inside three to 6 months. So lots of people are caught on this cycle. And I feel we now have higher details about the significance of rebuilding the great micro organism.

And corporations like Evvy are making that out there at scale to anybody, which is I feel an enormous step in the proper course of serving to individuals understand it’s okay to get examined as a result of we may help you’re feeling higher, proper? We may help you get higher. However I feel lots of people earlier than Evvy didn’t really feel like there was a path to getting higher. And so there was a variety of sort of distrust and lack of hope and mistrust within the system. However I like what you stated about, I’m positive your listeners nonetheless love listening to you say that as a result of it’s 100% true about being your individual physician or being your individual major care supplier, caring about your physique first.

And I feel one of many issues we really feel actually strongly about is considering how will we equip each single certainly one of our sufferers to have interaction in shared decision-making with their medical doctors. And I feel a variety of the explanations that we don’t really feel like we are able to do that’s as a result of we don’t have the information. We will’t convey the proper research to the physician about our our bodies. And I feel our hope is that we can provide you tremendous particular information by yourself physique. We will provide the analysis which you can take to your physician to have the most efficient dialog. And we not solely give that to you digitally by way of our product, however each single affected person of Evvy additionally will get assigned a board-certified well being coach who helps them truly perceive their outcomes, discuss by way of them, put together for, okay, I’ve a health care provider’s appointment developing. What are the three questions I ought to ask? What ought to I print out? Or I wish to discuss to my companion about carrying condoms extra typically. Like, are you able to assist me put together for that dialog?

And I feel these coaches, and I’m positive what you see being a doula, like having any person who truly helps you sit down and work by way of one thing, I feel has actually modified individuals’s notion of themselves to really feel like they’ll take part and they could be a determination maker about their well being care. And I feel it’s so unlucky that we’ve made girls really feel like they’ll’t be, and we positively wish to change that.

Katie: Yeah, I like what you simply stated. And to construct on that, I feel the follow-up to what I often say is that the perfect outcomes occur when you’ve an knowledgeable affected person and a practitioner physician who listens to that affected person and who they’re companions in that. As a result of whereas the physician might need extra medical coaching and extra data in sure areas, nobody has extra information about your physique and the way you’re feeling than you. So you’re a very a lot key level of that decision-making course of. And I feel the perfect outcomes, such as you stated, occur when there’s a extremely sturdy synergy between the practitioner and the affected person working towards an answer. And I really feel like that is one other of the good steps of serving to that course of occur extra organically and extra simply and with higher outcomes.

And I additionally remind individuals, , if a practitioner isn’t working for you, you’re hiring them. Despite the fact that they’re very a lot the authority determine in that relationship, you’re selecting to rent them and you’ll find one which’s a greater match in case you have a practitioner who’s not an superior match for you. And I’ve even executed that at 37 weeks pregnant when my physician advised me, as an example, like, you’re not allowed to do that throughout your delivery. I used to be like, nicely, then you definately’re fired. After which I used to be like, oh, I acquired to discover a new physician fairly fast. However simply do not forget that your practitioner is a companion with you. And in the event that they’re not being companion, discover one who’s as a result of that’s when the actually good outcomes occur.

Priyanka: I like that a lot. And I actually really feel for therefore many ladies who don’t really feel like they’ve a companion and a assist system of their supplier. However I additionally really feel for suppliers that simply don’t have entry to the proper instruments to assist girls. And I feel like we each must equip our suppliers with higher training in medical faculty in regards to the issues that uniquely occur to feminine our bodies. There’s simply not sufficient concentrate on that. After which we additionally must remind ourselves that we deserve a health care provider who listens to us. And there may be one, there at all times is one. And it’s only a matter of placing the effort and time into discovering one. And particularly in moments like being pregnant, it’s so price it. There’s so many choices to be made. It’s so private. And also you don’t wish to really feel such as you’re simply taking another person’s phrase over listening to what you additionally need.

Katie: Such level. And in addition, as I’m positive you’ve seen, statistically, even when analysis will get caught up in a sure space, it might take a very long time for that to trickle down by way of medical faculty and get to the precise practising medical doctors. And so I like that you simply guys are taking a consumer-focused method and getting that instantly within the palms of the individuals who it issues to, whose our bodies are being affected, after which additionally giving them the instruments to have that actually productive dialog with their suppliers to get actually good outcomes. I feel that’s the easiest way to construct the system and the way we’re going to see change the quickest.

Priyanka: I like that a lot. And I feel what’s been so fascinating is I feel we’ve had over 100 suppliers attain out to us saying, okay, a affected person introduced me these outcomes. I really feel like I would like to know this higher. Are you able to assist me? Are you able to assist me study in regards to the vaginal microbiome? What can I do to change into skilled on this? I’ve so many sufferers struggling. I don’t have the data. And I feel that provides me a lot hope, proper? So many suppliers who wish to do higher, who wish to study what’s new on the market. So it’s on the market. I feel and sufferers being those to convey it to the medical doctors, , as soon as the physician emailed me and was like, okay, I’ve now seen this 3 times previously month. Like I’ve to know what’s occurring.

And I feel to your level, you’ll be able to vote together with your {dollars}. And I feel they they’re beginning to understand that too, the place it’s like, in the event that they’re not going to concentrate, you will see that another person. In order that they’re beginning to concentrate. And I feel on the finish of the day, frankly, the system just isn’t arrange for anybody to be incentivized for it to alter aside from you. You’re the one who desires the perfect outcomes for your self. You’re the one who’s incentivized to do no matter it takes to get the proper reply. And so a variety of occasions, sadly, it falls on us to actually change the system. And I feel beginning with girls provides us the perfect likelihood of fixing the system long-term.

Katie: Agreed. There’s a lot freedom in that. On the finish of the day, our well being is finally our duty, which is superior information as a result of meaning we have now the flexibility to determine what must occur and to have an effect on change and to work with nice practitioners to make that occur. And so, like I stated, I like that you simply guys are actually pioneering on this area for girls particularly. Are you able to briefly stroll us by way of what the method appears to be like like of getting examined, getting outcomes again, what sort of info they get, and what to do with it?

Priyanka: Yeah, completely. So it begins with simply evvy.com. You possibly can order a check. Truly, most of our sufferers select to take it over time, as you’ll be able to think about your vaginal microbiome shifts, with drugs, with new companions, with being pregnant, and so forth. And what we discover is that in case you preserve proactive tabs on it, as we speak, we wait till actually the vaginal microbiome smells till we take motion clinically. And our hope is that we are able to catch slight imbalances earlier than they change into these full-blown infections. In order that’s why we provide that sort of ongoing choice. While you order the check, it involves your own home. You don’t have to go away your own home. Like I stated, it’s somewhat Q-tip swab of the vagina. I can’t wait so that you can take yours so we are able to discuss by way of the outcomes collectively. I at all times joke, it’s simpler than placing in a tampon. You swirl it round, you ship it again to our lab. Our lab is CLIA-CAP validated. It’s the truly the one, first and solely CLIA-CAP validated metagenomics check for vaginal well being, which is only a fancy method of claiming, like I stated earlier, we are able to see with extraordinarily excessive constancy, all micro organism and fungi which can be in your vagina.

After which we package deal up all of that info. We have in mind, are you pregnant? Are you in menopause? What are your signs? Do you’ve PCOS? What interval merchandise do you utilize? What contraception are you on? And we put that every one collectively into an incredible instructional expertise. Issues that we in all probability all ought to have realized in intercourse ed, however we didn’t about what, how do you consider your vaginal well being? What does yours particularly appear to be proper now? What are the related research on that because it pertains to your well being targets? And a variety of sort of personalised training. After which we additionally give each single affected person a step-by-step listing of subsequent steps of what to both discuss to their present—if they’ve an incredible practitioner, we’re very comfortable for them. We give them the listing of steps and research that they’ll assessment.

And in the event that they don’t, then they’ll work with Evvy instantly. And now, like I stated, we are able to join them to practitioners who can interpret their outcomes and create these wonderful custom-made remedy applications the place they’ll truly get customized compounded vaginal prescriptions despatched to their door. They’ll get matched with a well being coach who will clarify every little thing alongside the way in which. And our hope is that folks really feel supported each by Evvy, the coaches, the peer neighborhood, after which they lastly really feel educated to actually make higher choices about their vaginal well being.

Katie: And for all of you listening, I’ll put a hyperlink within the present notes at wellnessmama.fm as nicely to the check itself and to, I do know you’ve an amazing quantity of instructional info out there on-line, so that you guys can discover all of that. And I’m fascinated to comply with up on mine as nicely, and I’ll preserve you guys posted on how that goes. And a few questions I like to ask on the interviews which can be solely semi-related, the primary being if there’s a guide or variety of books which have profoundly influenced you personally, and in that case, what they’re and why.

Priyanka: Sure, such query. Certainly one of my favourite books according to beginning Evvy is an incredible guide known as Invisible Girls by Caroline Criado-Perez. And she or he writes about how sort of in a world that was designed based mostly on information on males, how does that really have an effect on you as a girl? And she or he particularly has an incredible chapter on well being care the place she talks much more in depth about among the issues that you simply and I talked about firstly of this name. So in case you’re , I feel it’s simply an incredible, wonderful guide. After which there’s so many different extra sort of simply fiction, unbelievable tales, however I do love studying.

Katie: I like it. That’s a brand new suggestion for guide on this podcast as nicely. I’ll put that hyperlink within the present notes for you guys listening too. And lastly, any parting recommendation for the listeners that might be associated to all of the matters we’ve talked about or solely unrelated recommendation that you simply discover useful.

Priyanka: Oh, such a giant query. I feel one thing that no less than helps me and hopefully may help each lady who’s fascinated by whether or not it’s your individual skilled journey or your individual well being care journey, it’s similar to, it’s okay to not be the professional, you continue to have a job to play. And I feel after I was beginning, Evvy, I acquired so many questions, , you’re not the PhD, you’re not the physician, like what, what position may you probably have in fixing the system? And I used to be like, nicely, I’m the affected person, I’m the one who’s suffered, and I need one thing higher. And I’m going to seek out the perfect PhD specialists, and I’m going to seek out the perfect medical doctors, and I’m going to make us concentrate on this drawback that actually issues. And I feel that was laborious, it was actually laborious to be somebody who didn’t have the proper diploma or didn’t have the proper background for individuals to belief me. And I feel that may translate or manifest in so many various methods in our lives.

And I feel I really feel so grateful each day that I didn’t let these individuals cease me as a result of I feel there’s, there’s a lot energy that comes from individuals who aren’t the present professional deciding to care about an issue, proper? And whether or not that’s, such as you stated, being the professional by yourself well being, like you’re the authority in your physique, you do understand it the perfect. Or it comes, it’s about, , one thing skilled the place you don’t really feel such as you’re the proper or most good individual to do it. I feel that’s the place a variety of magic occurs. And simply trusting your self to take action and never listening to individuals who assume you’ll be able to’t.

Katie: I completely love that recommendation. And I don’t know, it’s typically quoted, who is aware of if it’s truly correct or not. However I feel again to the story that’s attributed to Henry Ford when he was making an attempt to determine shatterproof glass. They usually stored telling him, all of the specialists stored telling him, it might’t be executed, it’s not potential. And he lastly fired all these individuals and stated, convey me the younger individuals who don’t but understand it’s not potential. After which these individuals figured it out. As a result of exactly as a result of they weren’t the specialists that thought they already knew all of the solutions. And I feel typically that it is a widespread theme for me is like that curiosity, that childlike mentality, that willingness to study new issues and have an open thoughts is usually simply an enormous asset in life and enterprise and something. And so I like that you simply introduced that up as your recommendation. I feel that’s completely good recommendation.

Priyanka: I like that. Sure. I really feel like there’s all day I really feel like I’m saying to my workforce, I’m actually sorry if like it is a actually apparent query, however I’m simply going to ask it anyway. And I’d say 90% of the time, they’re like, yeah, that’s a really apparent query. And right here’s the reply. However 10% of the time, they’re like, oh, that’s truly an fascinating mind-set about it, or that parallel to that business we hadn’t considered earlier than. And so I feel simply being conscious that you’ve got one thing to convey to the desk, even when it’s simply your ardour and your expertise, like that’s precious too.

Katie: I like it. Effectively, good place to place a pin in it for as we speak. Like I stated, I’ll comply with up with my very own outcomes and what I realized and we are able to preserve constructing the dialog from there. However thanks a lot for being right here. This was an enchanting matter after I really feel prefer it’s not talked about nicely sufficient. And I like that you’re bringing this dialog into the mainstream. So thanks.

Priyanka: Thanks a lot and for every little thing that you simply do for all of us. We’re all so grateful to have you ever.

Katie: And on that observe, thanks as at all times to all of you for listening and sharing your most beneficial sources, your time, your vitality, and your consideration with us as we speak. We’re each so grateful that you simply did, and I hope that you’ll be part of me once more on the subsequent episode of the Wellness Mama podcast.

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